point two, taxes right now under the obama administration are at 15% of grosse pointe woods. that's the lowest they've been in 60 years, so if everyone on the show believes that the answer to all of our economic problems is lowering the taxes, then you should vote for obama, because he's given us the lowest taxes that they've been in-- >> julian. >> let me point out that-- >> and do not want to change that overall tax. romney wants to keep it at-- >> julian, i think you missed the point here and the point is look, it's not just the existing, it's new business formation is at a record low according to the census bureau, if you look, small business accounts for roughly 50% of gdp and the numbers are much greater than you're giving credit for. i think the tax issue. >> the small businesses that are affected-- >> okay. >> the small businesses affected by that 1%-- that increase on that very top level, above 250 level represent about 10 to 12% of workers. >> okay, wait a minute, tobin, you disagree with that number? >> well, the actual number is, the top 3% of employment, let's sa